Tuesday, May 13, 2008

purci - 'past'

pur, pru


x1 is in the past of/earlier than/before x2 in time sequence; x1 is former; x2 is latter

* time ordering only (use lidne otherwise)
* aorist in that x1 may overlap in time with x2 as long as it starts before, x1 starts before x2 but is contin
uing during x2 (= cfaprucabna)
* non-aorist before, i.e. x1 is over/ended before x2 starts (= fampru), x1 is completed before x2 starts (= mulpru)

(cf. lidne, balvi, cabna, farna)

Todays word is related to the cmavo

pu PU past

which indicates past tense. See also the Lojban Reference Grammar. There is also a third one, {cabna}, which indicates present, but won't be tomorrows word (:.


Anonymous said...

I was wondering whether there is also a "deeper" etymology to those valsi - i.e., I would sometimes also like to know, what natlang sources influenced the choice of the valsi ... Is there a canonical source where to look these kind of things up?

Xris said...

Well, yes and no. There is an algorithm involved in creating the gismu, see http://www.lojban.org/no/publications/reference_grammar/chapter4.html#s14

Most of the stuff is _somewhere_ on lojban.org, but the page is trashed way too much. See http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=gismu+Etymology for a list of words used to feed the algorithm. There's some inofficial work to it, too: https://www.dealloc.org/~mublin/

Hope that helps. If there's someone interested in helping to sort things out , lojban.org is a wiki :)